This coming Wednesday there is an interesting meeting in Vancouver, BC. It is an “Islamic Talk & Q & A titled: Islam at a Glance.” It will be held at the Vancouver library branch: 4515 Dunbar St. on 29 March 2016; 6 – 7:30 PM. The speaker will be Mohammad Shujaath Ali. Here is the promotional information on the meeting:
“Islamic scholar Mohammad Shujaath Ali will explore facts, and myths, offer insights and answer your questions about this enduring world religion.”
The speaker is an Islamic imam with the British Columbia Islamic Association. I wish I could be there, but I will be in Portland, OR that evening.
This imam will probably read passages out of the Qur’an that we call the Meccan passages. They were given early in Muhammad’s life. He was borrowing a lot of things from the Bible, and his message was peaceful. The problem is, in the Qur’an and in Islam, they have the teaching of abrogation. To abrogate means to annul, to void, or to do away with. Here is what the Qur’an says on this:
Surah 2:106 Whatever communications We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring one better than it or like it. Do you not know that Allah has power over all things?
This was Muhammad’s revelation from Allah explaining why some of the later revelations contradicted the earlier revelations. In essence it tells us that Allah changed his mind. He tells us that the new revelation is better than the old one.
In the earlier revelations Allah, through the angel Gabriel, told Muhammad there is no compulsion in religion. No one should be forced to believe one way or another. Later on, when Muhammad was in Medina, the revelations changed to say things like:
Surah 9:29 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
This sounds a little compulsory, doesn’t it? How does Islam deal with this contradiction? The latter verses stand, and the earlier ones are abrogated.
It is most likely that those Muslims who conduct meetings like this one coming up, will only quote the abrogated passages from the Qur’an. They get away with this because most of us in the West don’t know about the doctrine of abrogation. They want us to believe that Islam is a religion of peace.
If I could be there I would take him to chapter 9 in the Qur’an, which is the last major chapter given by Muhammad. The Qur’an is organized by putting the larger chapters in the front and the smaller ones at the end. It is not organized in chronological order.
Surah 9:5 But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
This is known as “The Ayat of the Sword.” Ayat means verse. Here is what Ibn Kathir’s Tafsir, or commentary, said about this verse:
“It abrogated every agreement of peace between the Prophet and any idolator, EVERY TREATY, AND EVERY TERM.”
Ibn Kathir is the Matthew Henry of all of the Muslim commentators. This means that every peaceful passage has been abrogated because now they are told to go and fight them with the sword.
Then I would go to verse 29, which I quoted above, and ask the speaker to explain what this means. Their answer is, we are allowed to defend ourselves, but if you look at this verse, it doesn’t say anything about those who are attacking Muslims, it says that Muslims are to fight those who “believe not.”
I bring this verse up a lot because it tells us so much about Islam. This is the last instruction given through Muhammad. There is nothing that can abrogate this, because nothing can come after it since Muhammad, according to Islam, is the final prophet. Not only can it not be abrogated, it abrogates all of the peaceful passages that came before it. This is a big problem for Muslims who want to portray Islam as a peaceful religion.
Since I know they would say that I am taking things out of context, I would start reading out of the Sharia Law book, the Reliance of the Traveller.” In the beginning, it has the Stamp from the Al Azhar University, the premiere university in the Islamic world. It says:
“We certify that the translation corresponds the Arabic original and Conforms to the practice and faith of the orthodox Sunni Community.”
By the way, the Reliance of the Traveller (spelling is their’s) is available for about $60.00, but my book Refuting Islam has all of these quotes, and many more, and is available from this website for only $12.99.
The Reliance of the Traveller conforms to what Islam is supposed to be. I take them to the section on jihad, which is section O 9.0. It defines the law and quotes from the Qur’an:
ROT O 9.0 JIHAD
“Jihad means to war against non-Muslims, and is etymologically derived from the word mujahada signifying warfare to establish the religion.
The scriptural basis for jihad, prior to scholarly consensus is such Koranic verses as:
(1) “Fighting is prescribed for you” (Koran 2:216);
(2) “Slay them wherever you find them” (Koran 4:89);
(3) “Fight the idolators utterly” (Koran 9:36);
It then quotes the Prophet, himself:
…and such hadiths as the one related by Bukhari and Muslim that the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said:
“I have been commanded to fight people until they testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and perform the prayer, and pay zakat. If they say it, they have saved their blood and possessions from me…”
This is the law of Islam concerning jihad.
Here is another quote which shows Islam’s violent nature::
The caliph makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians
I would also quote from section on apostasy:
ROT o8.1 When a person who has reached puberty and is sane voluntarily apostatizes from Islam, he deserves to be killed.
ROT o8.2 In such a case, it is obligatory for the caliph to ask him to repent and return to Islam. If he does, it is accepted from him, but if he refuses, he is immediately killed.
ROT o8.3 If he is a freeman, no one besides the caliph or his representative may kill him. If someone else kills him, the killer is disciplined
ROT o8.4 There is no indemnity for killing an apostate
Here are some questions that would catch them off guard:
- How do you feel about Jews in Palestine?
- Do you like dogs? Do have a dog?
- Was 9/11 an inside job to frame Muslims?
- Was America right to send troops into Afghanistan and Iraq?
- Was there really a Holocaust?
- Was Hitler justified in killing the Jews?
- Was it wrong for the Texans to hold a “Draw Muhammad” event?
- Should Muslims live under the Shariah?
- Should Shariah law be implemented in America?
Here are also some question concerning contradictions in the Qur’an:
I was hoping a Muslim could help me understand this. In Islam we know that Muhammad is to be the greatest prophet, but the Qur’an calls Jesus holy in chapter 11, but never calls Muhammad holy although he is supposed to be the greater prophet. Jesus performed miracles, but Muhammad never did. Why is this?
In chapter 18 of the Qur’an, Allah told Muhammad that the sun sets in a pool of muddy water. How can the Qur’an really be of God when this is obviously wrong?
How can you reconcile that in Chapter 19 of the Qur’an that it says that Mary (Miriam), the mother of Jesus was the sister of Moses?
We know that Moses had a sister named Miriam, but Muhammad got a little confused here, didn’t he? He has her displaced by some 2,000 years. This happens again in chapter 7.
n chapter 7 of the Qur’an we find Moses living at the same time as Christ’s disciples. Again, this is some 2,000 years out of the proper time. How can this be?
In chapters 21 and 37, the Qur’an says that all the sons of Noah were saved in the ark, but in chapter 11 it says that one of his sons drowned, that he didn’t even get on the ark. It says that he was going to go to a high mountain and save himself. How can this be?
In chapter 17 the Qur’an says that Pharaoh drowned in the Red Sea, but in chapter 10 it says that he survived. How do you reconcile this?
In chapter 7 it says Allah does not forgive shirk (blasphemy), but in chapter 4 and chapter 25 we see him forgiving shirk. How can this be?
In chapter 35 we are told that angels have a total of 6 wings, but it is recorded that Muhammad said that the angel Gabriel had 600 wings. How can this be?
Who was the first Muslim? In chapter 39, Muhammad said that he was, but chapter 7 says it was Moses, and chapter 2 says it was Abraham.
In chapter 7 we find that the Jews repented of their worshipping of the golden calf, but in chapter 20 we are told that they didn’t. Which is true?
These kinds of questions take them off guard, and they will often get angry when they are asked them. They will cause them to reveal their true colors.